We Bombarded The Giant Trees With Cute Orange Cats!

Jess tells us about Orangey the Cat! Orangey was a famous cat of the 1950s/60s Hollywood movie and television scene. Well…Orangey was actually several cats, but who’s counting? We also learn a bit about Frank Inn and we really like him for his animal training and his care of a variety of animals during his life!

Hids dives into conspiracy theories…specifically one from 2016 about GIANT TREES! Did you know that the forests we walk in today are actually just bushes and shrubs? The MOUNTAINS are the remains of giant trees that once stretched miles into the air!! Yeah…we think it’s whack-a-doodle, too.

Jess' Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangey

https://filmmakermagazine.com/109592-the-hardest-working-cat-in-show-biz/

https://cinemacats.com/the-shocking-truth-revealed-about-orangey/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PATSY_Award

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1248838/

https://filmmakermagazine.com/109611-online-premiere-sofia-bohdanowiczs-the-hardest-working-cat-in-showbiz/

Hids' Sources:

https://itgetsweird.libsyn.com/episode-13-extra-big-pharma 

https://youtu.be/VAp9a9ubT1c?si=doTnBIO9ztEKw_sB

https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/xhen1x/a_theory_claims_that_mountains_are_actually_the/ 

https://cryptidz.fandom.com/wiki/Giant_Sillicon_Trees

https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/12drjza/request_if_the_theory_that_devils_tower_is_an/

Transcript

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Oh, right. That's usually the time you go completely silent. Hi. Uh hello. Yeah, hi. I think I'm going to play my dad's recordings.

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Oh, cool. Is that going to be our new op was that our new opener? I don't because you know you haven't added it yet. Or are you just going to put him in here?

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Yes. I don't know. I haven't even gotten the recordings off of my phone yet. Cool, cool, cool, cool. But my dad wrote us a little a little jingle, a little intro song. And uh he also sent several several takes of it, and I definitely want to play those. I think insert them here.

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So how's this for a theme song? But it's a fun. Let me try again. Let me try again. But um bum bump just and it is make a podcast. It's a podcast that just again's made. If you're listening to this podcast, because it's a podcast that just and it's made. Boom boom. Just to be to make a podcast, it's a podcast of Justin Hitman. If you listening to this podcast, it's a podcast of Justin Hitman. Just to be to make a podcast, it's a podcast, just and it's made. If you listen to this podcast, it's a podcast, just a hits made.

unknown 2:17

Okay.

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That was great. Thanks, Dad. Thank you. But yeah, he uh I guess he listened to the most recent episode. Well, I guess technically this is the most recent episode, but he listened to last episode uh when I had new music and it was like, hey, here you go.

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Yeah, because we're we're looking for uh royalty-free music for our podcast.

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Well we have some now, yeah. But I thought I thought we had some earlier before, but I guess not. I guess not. Anyway. Yeah. Sorry for breaking.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Desk gets to go back through 60 some episodes and uh change all the intro music so we can put them on YouTube.

SPEAKER_03 3:11

Yeah. Great. Yeah, they are on YouTube, but they there's like we get an email. We when we first uploaded all of them to YouTube, we got like a bunch of e like an episode or an email for each episode saying that like, oh, this has copyrighted stuff in it. Uh we'll still post it, but you're not eligible for monetization. And so we were like, cool. It's gonna be a long time before we even hit the monetization whatever. So that's fine. I've got time to do it. It's just a matter of doing it. It's gonna happen. And this is episode 68.

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It's gonna happen like next month. We're gonna hit it big. We're gonna go viral for some reason. It we're gonna go viral for this episode.

SPEAKER_03 3:54

Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

Um then you're gonna be like, oh crap, I gotta go change all those. Ah, shoot. That's what you can do next next week in Mexico.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

On the beach in Mexico, I'm gonna be furiously editing 66 podcast episodes. Yeah. Plus like our intro or like the um the trailer that we did. And yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:23

All the things. Shout out to Jeff for the editing process. That's what you said last time. I know I'm gonna always say it because it's awesome that you do it. Cause I wouldn't. I just be like, that sounds good enough. Put it up there. Oh.

SPEAKER_03 4:40

What else is new? Um, I don't know. Still in the process of registering for college. Me too.

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Boy, let me tell you. It's uh they don't make it easy. No, no, no, they don't.

SPEAKER_03 4:56

Yeah. Anyway, this particular college moved to a new system. That's the excuse they're using for everything, at least. So yeah, it's just it's taking a long time.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

Seems more complicated. Well, I don't know what their previous system was. This might be easier. Yeah, it seems incredibly complicated. Yeah. So anyway.

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I've registered in other colleges and it was not this complicated. So I don't know. But uh yeah, that's happening. It's in progress, and work has been absolutely insane. Oh my gosh, work has been cuckoo bonkers.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

Yeah. Cuckoo bonkers. Yeah.

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Did I tell you uh our boss told me today that I mean, I guess I could say your name. That's fine. Karen told me today that uh she went back and looked at this time of year for the past two years, and this year we've doubled.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

I believe it. Yeah. Yeah, I believe it. It's insane. Yeah. I did 30, I think 34 shirts today or 32 shirts. Which is like doesn't sound like a lot. I usually do, I think, closer to 50.

SPEAKER_03 6:15

I'm pretty sure our listeners have no frame of reference. No frame of reference.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Um, but like they are these uh shirts that have these like mesh panels in them that can't be pressed with the hot heat press. So I have to like put towel, it's just a pain. But like they drop off 25 of them at a time.

SPEAKER_02 6:37

Yeah.

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And I'm just like, can we break it up maybe? Do 12 one week and two weeks later do 12 more. Hey. Yeah, that'd be a lot easier for me. And other people's shirts can get done. Because I didn't touch the rest of the pile. That's probably another 60 shirts.

SPEAKER_03 6:53

Yeah, and then we got a ton of drop-offs today, too.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

So that's good times. Typical Monday. So if you would like to join our Patreon and help support us so that uh we don't complain about dry cleaning anymore, you can find us at patreon.com slash Jess and Hids. Yes, please. Or if you'd like to sponsor our podcast. Yeah. Do that. That would be great. Yeah. Okay.

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That's a word we haven't used before.

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No. Okay. Anyway.

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What is okay. What we're just trying to think of like sponsoring. Yeah. Would mean like we put other people's names out there.

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Yeah, and they give us money to do that. And we go, sure. We'd like to thank our money and our products.

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Yeah. And thank you to, you know. This podcast is brought to you by listeners like you.

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And hello fresh. I don't know. Anyway. Oh, you meant that kind of sponsor.

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I thought you were like a random person. A person becoming a patron. Like, are we calling them our sponsors? I was wondering why this was getting I was so confused.

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Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Okay. Anyway, so yeah, become a patron, tell your friends, share. Also just share it because I I think we have fun here and yeah, it's fun. It is fun. So okay. Also, oh, today is um today, the day of the recording. This is our gotcha day for two of our kittens. Well, that was gonna be my war member. So well, you can still have it. Oh sorry. I just saw little Xirin and I thought I had to say something.

SPEAKER_03 8:39

Yeah. It's well, it's actually the day between Zirin and Kiercy's gotcha day. We were just celebrating at this time. Yeah. Yeah. We combined them. Combined it. Yeah. Yeah. Like bad parents combining kids' birthdays.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

They don't know. Zirin can't hear us anyway. I know.

SPEAKER_03 8:55

He's just like. But we got Xirin and then two days later, got Kiercy, and we always like meant for them to like we wanted to. We just managed to catch Zirin first.

SPEAKER_01 9:08

Because he was deaf and goofy and just wandered around in the parking lot until you picked him up. Yep. And Kiercy, however, hid under a pile of scrap metal that we had to move and dig. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 9:22

So yeah. Anyway, so yay. Happy gotcha day to Kiersi and Zirin, the two youngest kittens.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

Our youngest kittens. Two years. We've had them two years now. Wow. I know. That's crazy. Seems wild. Yeah. There was a time that we didn't have them, and it feels weird to say that. They're just fixtures.

SPEAKER_03 9:40

There was a time that we didn't have any cats. I know. And Cake misses that.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

I know Cake's like, oh gosh. I think actually Cake likes Kiersey.

SPEAKER_03 9:49

Cake likes maybe Anagan too.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

Yeah. And Stray. Three of the cats like cake. Stray will go and lick her face. Yeah. And she lets her. I'm yeah. Anyway, um, I I'm going to I see you have the the Uno cards out and everything. Uh-huh. Um, but I think I want you to do your topic first because mine is going to I don't know that we'll be able to talk about yours once we've talked about mine because it's it's out there. So so can I can I request that? We don't have to, but I'm just thinking.

SPEAKER_04 10:30

Do you have a card to burn on that? Do you have a card?

SPEAKER_01 10:32

I don't think a reverse. But I'll tell you what, if we'll do it. Um I got nothing. Sorry. I got nothing. Uh but I just I really feel like you said that you you wouldn't tell me your topic, and you said your topic was cute. Okay. So I think we should do the cute topic first, and then we can do my topic, and I'm gonna show you my notes afterwards, and you can see my stream of consciousness notes. That okay is really like okay. Okay. And you'll understand it when I talk about my topic.

SPEAKER_03 11:18

Okay. Okay. Yeah, I can go first. Okay. Kind of takes the fun out of the whole drawing palette, though.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

Well, I mean, we could go ahead and draw and and see. I probably would have gone first because you have like all the cards that you've been hanging on to.

SPEAKER_03 11:34

I've got I've got a skip, I've got a plus two, and I have a wild, which like isn't even gonna come into play. I know what it does.

SPEAKER_01 11:43

But it's only if we draw so Jeff says she wrote this all down, but I think she changes it every time.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

I know she's all out the piece of paper every week. Even the weeks we don't record. No, just kidding. I wrote it all down, I just didn't think of all the things. But like, as I mentioned in a previous episode at some point, I ran it all by you and you said, Okay, yes, that works.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

Allegedly.

SPEAKER_03 12:10

Yeah. Yeah. I can go back like listeners can go back and find when I said that. No, you're good. It's fine.

SPEAKER_01 12:17

We can draw if you want to draw. We could do it. No, it's fine. That we set forth for ourselves. No, I'll go. We're allowed to break. I'll go. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 12:25

What's your topic? So, yeah, the only hint that I gave you um was that it's cute. And I also said this during our tea time that we had over the weekend, and the most recent schedule post that I put up on Patreon, which is free to access, by the way. Um, also includes a link to our Discord server. Anyway, I said that it's a cute topic. Yes. And that's all I said about it.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

Yeah. I'm gonna talk about what? I was gonna say, is it cute like like K-pop cute? Or is it cute like oh cute and cute?

SPEAKER_03 13:03

Well I'm gonna talk about uh a cute little gentleman, or several cute gentlemen, but all shared the same name and the same legend. John, Jacob, Jingo, Highland. It's not cute.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

Um is my name too.

SPEAKER_03 13:20

I'm talking about Orangy the cat. Orangy the cat!

SPEAKER_01 13:24

Oh my gosh, yay!

SPEAKER_03 13:26

And the reason I hesitate to confirm uh whether or not it's cute is speaking of cats. Because it probably wasn't just one cat, but we'll get into that.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

Wait, uh Orangy, is this or is Orangy the movie cat? Yeah. Okay, okay. I wanted to make sure I was thinking of the same cat.

SPEAKER_03 13:47

So if one were to Google Orangy the Cat, one would likely find a heartwarming rags to riches tale of a little orange tabby cat who wandered limping off the street and into a California home of Agnes Murray in 1948. Okay. Agnes fed him and nursed his bad leg back to health, and then she found out about an open casting call for cats for for an upcoming movie called Rhubarb. And then she called the studio and set up an audition. The producers of rhubarb were looking for a Jimmy Cagney kind of cat. And um, I know Jimmy, I know who Jimmy Cagney is, but I I don't know. Anyone younger than us probably does. I know. I I think the the image they were going for is just kind of like a multi-talented, well-rounded kind of cat. Because Jimmy Cagney did a lot of things, right?

SPEAKER_01 14:45

Yeah, yeah. But he was, I think like movie-wise, I know him like the old like early gangster movies, right? Like, is that the right guy? Is that the one I'm thinking of? Yeah. Okay. I think he had range though. Yeah. Jim, Jim.

SPEAKER_03 15:01

Or maybe he has a rags to riches kind of story that I just don't know about, and that's what they meant. But anyway, um, somewhere around 5,000 cats auditioned for the role, and Orangy beat them all. 5,000 cats auditioned. 5,000 Orange Little Tabby Cats auditioned for this role in rhubarb. Because rhubarb is the title character. Oh rhubarb is the cat.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

Rhubarb Oh, well, okay. Yeah. So it says that James Francis Cagney Jr. uh was known for he was an American actor and dancer known for his energetic performances, distinctive voice, and comic timing. Defined the gangster genre in the 1930s. Okay, so I was thinking of the right the right guy. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

Okay. So Frank N was an animal trainer for Hollywood at the time, and he purchased Orangy from Agnes for $25, and I looked it up. That would be about $345 today. Agnes, why did you well, I mean because Orangy was gonna be a star. It's gonna be a star. You're gonna be a star kid. Frank Inn said that Orangy was a real New York type cat, just what we want. In no time at all, I'm going to make a method or a Lee Strasbourg type cat out of him. This is like a real nudic type cat.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

Yeah. Yeah, meow. Meow. See. Meow.

SPEAKER_03 16:27

Oh no, stuff is falling out. Just the boy. Okay. Did some to your backpack. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 16:32

Oh, it's just my backpack.

SPEAKER_03 16:34

Okay. Um, so you have cats with attitude. I know. He's like, hey, you're talking about me. Meow. See.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

Meow, see. Um get Jerry on the horn. See.

SPEAKER_03 16:46

Uh, so Orangy would often scratch and bite actors. He was called the world's meanest cat by one studio executive.

SPEAKER_05 16:54

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_03 16:55

But he was prized for his ability to stay for several hours. He would sometimes flee after filming scenes and production would be shut down until he could be found. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 17:07

I adore Orangy.

SPEAKER_03 17:08

I know. So Frank Inn would sometimes have to post guard dogs at the studio entrance just to keep him from running away. Oh my gosh. Some cat would get scared by the dogs and not leave this the soundstage. Oh my goodness. Yeah.

unknown 17:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 17:21

So in spite of how difficult Orangy seemed to be to work with, he was credited for a grand total of 38 roles in movies and television from the 50s and 60s. Wait. Spanning about 16 years.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

Okay. Well, that's an average cat year life. Uh-huh. That's a lot of movies in though. It sure is. Weird, huh? Was there more than one orangey?

SPEAKER_03 17:49

Uh probably. Okay. Yeah. I'm getting. I'm getting. Okay, okay. Um Orangy was credited by a lot of different names, including rhubarb, Jimmy, Jeremy, and Orangy. Jerry. Sometimes just Jerry on the horn.

SPEAKER_01 18:04

He was it was rhubarb in uh the Vincent Price movie, right?

SPEAKER_03 18:09

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:12

Comedy of Terrors. Yeah. Okay. He was billed as rhubarb. Yes. And um in Breakfast at Tiffany's, he was cat. Cat. Cat.

SPEAKER_05 18:24

Go away, cat.

SPEAKER_03 18:27

Uh, Orangy is the only cat to win two Patsy Awards. For the first, or the first one was for the title role in Rhubarb in 1951. And the second was for his role in Breakfast at Tiffany's in 1961.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

What is a Patsy?

SPEAKER_03 18:43

I am going to tell you right now. The Patsy Award was originated by the Hollywood office of the American Humane Association in 1939. They decided to honor animal performers after a horse was killed in an onset accident during the filming of the Tyrone Power film Jesse James.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

Aww.

SPEAKER_03 19:04

The letters Patsy are an acronym. They stand for Picture Animal Top Star of the Year. And then a later acronym was also included Performing Animal Television Star of the Year. So it included Film and TV. Oh, okay. That's cool.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

I um am glad for the American Humane Society stepping in on films because it used to not be great for animals on films.

SPEAKER_03 19:26

So the Patsy Award doesn't exist anymore. It was kind of discontinued in the 80s, but they do have um they have like a Posker Awards. A Poskar PAW. Aww. Yeah. That's cute. And like animals are still recognized. And because of this, um like humane societies and stuff became more aware of animal treatment in movies. Yeah. And it's the reason we have the no animals were harmed, you know, in the making of this, uh, you know, things like that, disclaimers at the end of movies. So yeah, the Patsy Awards kind of started um this whole animal safety awareness in movies, which is great.

SPEAKER_01 20:06

It is great. I know this random fact about the movie do you remember the movie Dances with Dances with Wolves? Yeah. Yeah, okay. The the horse in there, the buckskin horse, that was his great horse. Um, he was only allowed to gallop for a hundred yards at a time. Oh. Because it was so hot when they were filming, and the Humane Society was like, you have to like, you know, give him a break. And so all those scenes where he's just running across there, like filmed in little short bursts. Well, I thought that's what they did anyway. Yeah, I mean, they do film them in bursts, but like they had it, and I don't know if that's like a standard or anything, but there was um I just remember reading a whole article uh about it at in one of my uh when I used to get horse magazines when I was all in the horse world. So cool. I just thought it was cool. That's just some random thing.

SPEAKER_03 20:57

Uh another uh neat little thing about Orange's trainer, Frank Inn, he was the owner of 40 Patsy Awards, over 40 Patsy Awards. Or he was, I guess, responsible for over 40s. He was like prolific. He yes, he had been an animal trainer uh for a while. He started with a company and then uh branched out on his own. Um and he he trained the animals that played Benji.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

I love Benji.

SPEAKER_03 21:31

Lassie.

SPEAKER_01 21:32

I love Lassie.

SPEAKER_03 21:33

And Arnold, the pig from Green Acres. Oh my gosh. Uh lots of other things. Um like all the the little critters from Beverly Hillbillies. He supplied those. And uh a lion that was used in um the Addams family. The television show, the older one.

SPEAKER_01 21:58

Yeah, I don't remember a lion.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

But it was just like a couple episodes. I guess they had a a lion in the house.

SPEAKER_01 22:04

Now I wanna can we go find those and just binge old Adam's family episodes? Sure.

SPEAKER_03 22:08

Um so another another little neat little thing about Frank before we get back to Orangy. From his Wikipedia page, I have a quote that says, A true animal lover, In could not bear to see healthy animals euthanized, so he took them in. Those with acting ability, he and his assistants kept and trained. The others he gave to friends and admirers as pets. In said that at one time he and his helpers had 1,000 animals under their care, and the feeding bills alone came to $400 a day. Whoo, buddy. Which like at that time period, $400. Like I already did the the $25 was $300 something dollars. So like $400 at that time, I didn't do the math for that. But that's you can imagine.

SPEAKER_01 22:55

That's a lot. Yeah, because they weren't all just cats. I mean lions and yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 23:01

That's a lot of different dietary needs, like horses and stuff too. Like, yeah. That's wild. It's a lot. So back to Orangy. Okay, Orangy the cat. A 16-year-long career. It's crazy. Yeah. And um later it came out that it wasn't all just one cat. Aww. So sorry everybody for shattering the little warm, fuzzy story, but the the studio did publicize that Orangy was one cat with a dozen stand-ins and that he received the finest food and veterinary attention every other day. But in 2001, um in an interview with the Television Academy Foundation, Frank Inn stated that the early publicity on Orangy was encouraged by the studio, which liked the the sort of Rags to Rich's beautiful origin story. Yeah. But that the original Orangy died prior to the making of rhubarb. Oh no. So this cat was cast, and then before they even started filming, oh my goodness, poor Orgy. Um, and I have some passages from a book. Uh oh, hang on. I totally forgot now. Uh yeah, and in that film, the cat character was portrayed by multiple orange cats. So I have some passages from a book called Amazing Animal Actors by Pauline Bartel. And uh it talks about Frank Inn and just the whole cat training process. Um the first one says, because cats are difficult to train, In was not sure he could teach one cat all of the tricks necessary for the rhubarb script. Instead, he acquired 60 look-alike cats and used 36 of them for the film. In trained each of the 36 cats to perform one or two tricks and use the cats interchangeably in the film. For example, when the director needed a cat to jump, In brought out one of the cats that could jump on Q. The cat would perform the trick, In would put the cat back in its crate and take out another that can perform the next trick requested by the director. Um and then another passage from the book says In had various names for the 36 cats which he with which he worked. Pie plant, another term for rhubarb, big boy, long tail, the Freddy cat, little britches. My gosh. However, the official press releases from the studio promoted the story that one cat, Orangy, played the role of rhubarb.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

Okay. I I still like it.

SPEAKER_03 25:53

I know, like it's still kind of cool that like this this whole all these cats are working under one name and one legend.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

Yeah. I mean, it in the movie, um all my reference is are gonna be horse related, but in the movie Hidalgo, there were three uh horses that were used in different and they were all painted like to look the same, but there was a close-up horse and then one for um certain like trick shots and then the the long distance shots.

SPEAKER_03 26:24

Yeah, and it I I feel like it's common knowledge that if there is an animal in a movie or TV show, there's probably several animals playing the same part. Yeah, yeah. So yeah. Um I have one last quote from In. Uh he he said, So whenever I'd go to the pound, I'd pick up two or three cats that looked alike, struggle through and try to get the job done. But like because of the studio, like wanting to promote this story, this didn't even come out until 2001.

SPEAKER_01 26:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:56

So But I just think all those orange cats that shared one brain cell and that he rescued. And like this guy, like Frank Inn seems like a really, really cool guy and wasn't, you know, cruel to the animals that he trained. He actually liked the animals he trained. So it's it's kind of cool that he'd be like, oh, orange cats, bring them all.

SPEAKER_01 27:12

I like them all. Yeah. I I put that book in our Amazon wish list, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 27:17

Oh, good. But yeah, that that's that's a that's my topic. It's a short topic.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

It's a short topic. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:23

I yeah, it just it wasn't one cat that worked for 16 years. I don't know why. Like on the one hand, I don't know why they kept the ruse going for so long, for the whole like 16 years.

SPEAKER_01 27:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:36

Oh, I can't. Well, he kind of I say 16 years. The secret didn't come out until much later than that, but like Orangy stopped giving film credit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

Yeah. So like I mean I could see you you you do have that rags to riches in Hollywood. Even a cat can do it. Yeah. See, he had just a cat from the Bronx. He came in off the streets, now he's a famous cat. He's a millionaire. I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:05

I love that. I don't know. And like I do like that. I I don't know if like the studio execs put pressure on Frank to lie about it, or if Frank was just like, yeah, whatever, you do what you want. I'm just like, I'm just gonna take care of these cats. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

I'm it's gonna be like six cats anyway. So as long as I get paid for all of them, I mean, hey.

SPEAKER_03 28:25

These are these cats aren't cheap, man. But yeah, Orangey the legend, not the cat, not the one cat, won two Patsy Awards. And what did I say? I did over like 38. 38 films. Yeah. So is the listing on IMDb.

SPEAKER_01 28:44

So if you saw an orange cat in a movie in from the 50s or 60s, it was probably probably.

SPEAKER_03 28:51

Yeah, I mean I can air quotes. That's that's okay. But yeah, Breakfast at Tiffany's, Comedy of Terrors, those are the two that I've seen with orangey in it.

SPEAKER_01 29:07

That that for sure though. Didn't we wait, was there? I feel like there was another one we were like, hey, I bet that that's that's that same orange cat, but I don't remember what it was. Um, hang on, I am opening up that one. Okay, open up. Yeah, I want to know how many Okay, I do want you to read them because now I want to know. Not you don't have to read all 38, but Okay.

SPEAKER_03 29:26

Uh Green Acres, yeah. The Flying Nun. Oh, Batman, a couple episodes, three episodes of Batman, uh, Mission Impossible, the series, I Dream of Jeannie, Beverly Hillbillies, uh Gidget. Okay, absolutely. I've never seen Gidget Ride Beyond Vengeance, I don't know, Gomer Pyle, Village of the Giants, Fluffy, Alfred Hitchcock Hour, The Fugitive, the TV series, The Outer Limits, My Favorite Martian, Petticoat Junction, The Comedy of Terrors, Under the Yum Yum Tree, uh G-I-G-O-T.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

G-I-G-O G-Go? Gijo.

SPEAKER_03 30:08

Gijo, it's probably The Dick Van Dyke Show, Mr. Ed, Breakfast at Tiffany's, The Twilight Zone in one episode, Visit to a Small Planet, Darby O'Gill and The Little People, Sean Connery. The Diary Van Frank, Law Man, The Matchmaker, Shirley Temple's storybook, Zorro, the TV series, Alfred Hitchcock presents. I already said that. Shortcut to Hell, Bo James, The Incredible Shrinking Man, Armis Brooks, The Island Earth, Another Armis Brooks. Oh, it was a TV series in a movie. Um, and then Rhubarb.

SPEAKER_01 30:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 30:41

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 30:43

I've heard of some of those. Yeah. I'm sure we've seen the Twilight Zone episode because we binged that last year. Recently watched a lot of those. That's cool though. I mean, like, I think sorry by L. Um, I forgot completely about it. Um the I what I I think, like, oh, you know, it wasn't the same cat. That's kind of sad. But I love learning about Frank because I didn't know that, you know, like you you see all the animals in movies and you assume there are trainers and stuff, but I love that he was so like, you know, I'm just gonna go get pets and and uh if they don't work out, we'll we'll we'll give them to his friends. We're probably like, we're not going to Frank's house for dinner, okay? Yeah. Because you know, you know he's gonna give us a cat.

SPEAKER_03 31:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

Yeah. I want to go to Frank's house for dinner. We don't need another cat, but I do want to go to Frank's house because you know there's like cats and dogs and just random animals all over. Yeah. He can give me a raccoon or a raven.

SPEAKER_03 31:50

Oh, that'd be great.

SPEAKER_01 31:52

I wonder if he trained birds. He's probably no longer with us, but I know. Um I yeah, I think. No, I just said that to myself. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:02

I want to go to his house. Oh, wait. Yeah, he is not. Okay. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

Well, that's cool. That's a fun that was.

SPEAKER_03 32:11

I'm pretty sure he's not no longer with us.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

Unless he was very, very young when he was training the camera. Yeah. Um, that was a fun topic, and I'm glad you went first. I'm very curious about your topic. My topic. Okay. There is comfy. Okay, get c get cozy. So I didn't look this up, but there is a thing on the internet called Poe's Law, which states that without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views that won't lead to some people believing that the author holds those views sincerely. What? Okay, so without a clear indicator of intent, people will be like, oh yeah, they said this thing, so they believe it.

SPEAKER_04 32:58

Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:59

So so for sure, for sure. Yeah, like for sure.

SPEAKER_04 33:02

For sure.

SPEAKER_01 33:03

So for sure, I'm going to state right here, right now, I do not believe this. But oh buddy, it's gonna be a fun ride. So, Jess, do we go hiking in the woods to do some silvo therapy? In the forest, the great forest of our beautiful land. Yeah. Well, too bad. We don't have any forests. They're just bushes because the forests were all destroyed 200 years ago. So what we have now are just no, they're just small bushes and um park rangers and the government and all the scientists are lying. How long ago did the forest get? 200 years ago. Well, a little over 200 years ago. 200. Yeah. In the bombardment of 1816. What? We're gonna talk about the conspiracy the uh about giant trees, the conspiracy theory, which I my wow Google search right now is so and my algorithm is so oh my gosh. This weekend has been the research of this podcast has has been difficult for me.

SPEAKER_04 34:17

Okay, so yeah, you said you drew a recurring card.

SPEAKER_01 34:19

I drew a recurring card, the conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory card. I'm stupidly excited because I love conspiracy theory stuff.

SPEAKER_03 34:29

I have to make a correction from last episode.

SPEAKER_01 34:32

Oh, okay. Oh, I do too. I completely forgot about my other conspiracy theory that I talked about last week.

SPEAKER_03 34:39

Well, you're talking about conspiracy theories, and uh, it's funny because I mentioned that one podcast. I called it it gets weirder. Yeah, it's just called it it gets weird.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:49

Yeah, that's that's my correction.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Um, something I learned uh really quick before we dive into the giant tree thing, and I completely lose my mind again. Um, so I mentioned we were I talked about the men in black, uh-huh. And um, some of the men in black might actually be Tibetan monks who fled Tibet with the Dalai Lama and offered their transcendental abilities to the CIA. Wow. Okay. Do with that what you will. I I heard that and I was like, okay. Cool, cool, cool. And moving right along to the next conspiracy theory.

SPEAKER_03 35:32

Um giant trees. Yeah, tell me about the forests that are only gone for 200 years.

SPEAKER_01 35:40

So the giant tree conspiracy is relatively new. Um, it was kind of kicked off. No, it was 200 years ago. Well, yeah. Yeah, sorry. I'm sorry. 200 years ago there were giant trees. And when I talk giant trees, I'm talking trees that are like two miles high. Well, yeah, I mean, yeah, you said the forests we have now are just little bushes. Even those sequoia, okay, you know, the 385 foot tall trees. Yeah. They're just little little shrubs. Okay. So anyway, um, the fun thing about this is like I can just literally say anything right now, and you can't prove it's not true, so it's true.

SPEAKER_03 36:24

Isn't that how conspiracy theorists work? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I could argue that you could prove that it's not true, but you know.

SPEAKER_01 36:35

Well, then you'd just be one of those people who isn't, you know, your eyes aren't open to the truth of things. You're listening to scientists who make stuff up just for money and stuff. Yeah, you know. Um also uh giant trees were mentioned in the Bible, so might drop. Anyway. I'm gonna apologize because I've lost my mind. Yeah, no, tell me about the giant trees. So the giant tree the giant tree theory states that uh many geological formations that we know of today are actually the petrified remains of ancient giant trees. Okay. And um, I found a video that I you probably heard me yesterday why when I was watching it going, oh my god, this guy. Um pretty much everything that we walk on on the planet, like if there's a cliff, if there's hills, if there's uh weirdly shaped rock formations because of erosion. No, no, no. It's a tree or a petrified mushroom. And I'm gonna show you, I'm gonna give you the link to the video and I'll post it and you can watch it. And please, people do not believe this man because he's insane. But he's just like, let me tell you something, friends, my friend, my friend. I'm like, I am not your friend, my friend. Um, but yeah, so okay, uh, this whole thing started in 2016. There was a Russian you YouTuber and conspiracy theorist named Ludin Rusi, and he started this whole thing about giant trees. I could not find his video. If somebody out there with better skills than me finds it, I would love to have it. So please like message me or tag us or something. I would love to see this. Um but yeah, so he talks about this whole thing and he kind of just riffs. Um, and I did get a lot of my notes from that episode that YouTube video from It Gets Weird.

SPEAKER_02 38:47

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 38:48

Um, because I was randomly just listening in and I'm like, oh my gosh, they have a giant tree episode. Hot dogs, this is gonna be fun. Um and they got their notes from some woman who was like translating the YouTube video. Okay. Um yeah, it's insane. So old trees are very rare. Um, they're tracked by the government, which this is true. Like if if the government, like Park Rangers National Park Service, if they find a really old giant tree, they do keep tabs on it because you, you know, it's like the sequoias are all protected and you can't just go chopping them down willy-nilly and all of that sort of thing. So they do keep a track on them. But um all their lies about how old these trees are, you know, 400, 500 years old. No, no, no, no, no. That's just propaganda. That's just propaganda. Because in the bombardment of 1816, which no one has any idea what the bombardment of 1816 is, well, it suggests some sort of aerial warfare. Yes. But there's no like nothing happened in 1816 like that would cause, and I quote, a great world fire that destroyed 99% of the Earth's biosphere. Okay. That happened just 200 years ago. Yeah, I it's it's in all the history books. Have it. Didn't you learn this? Didn't you learn this? Didn't you read it? No, you didn't, because the government is hiding it from you. Okay. Okay. So just just know. So um this video uh alleges that, well, they don't allege, they state, uh, that Soviet scientists have found an unnatural amount of water in the ice and snow at the the north and south pole. Yep. Um as well as an unnatural amount of carbon dioxide in the oceans. Okay. Yep. And all of this is from these are remnants of that great world fire in 1816. Okay. Sure. What else could it possibly be? What else could it possibly be? But I don't know, water. Because that's what snow and ice is. I do. Oh man. Anyway, um, so living cells are made from hydrogen and carbon. And so the ice on the poles is created from burned organisms.

SPEAKER_03 41:20

Oh, it all makes perfect sense now. Yep. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 41:25

Good, good.

SPEAKER_01 41:27

Okay. All right, my friend. Uh just yeah. Um, so the quote this woman, oh my gosh. 99% of everything on earth is 20,000 times less in volume than before this catastrophe. Repeat that. 99% of everything on earth is 20 times less in volume than before this catastrophe.

SPEAKER_03 42:00

So we all shrank. We were all giants.

SPEAKER_01 42:02

Like maybe that's it. They might be giants. They might we might be giants.

SPEAKER_03 42:07

Yeah. What I mean, that's oh my god, it sounds like that.

SPEAKER_01 42:11

You heard it here first. Right.

SPEAKER_03 42:15

We're all giants. We're all giants. We used to be.

SPEAKER_01 42:18

I'm a giant. Coming, coming, coming, coming, coming. Um, wow. Okay, anyway. I'm gonna just get into my stream of consciousness on this video, other video I watched. Because of the great fire. This this huge fire spread across the earth, destroying.

SPEAKER_03 42:37

Are you just talking about like vegetation? Like the No, it destroyed all the people too.

SPEAKER_01 42:42

Except for the few who get destroyed.

SPEAKER_03 42:44

It just knocked them down by 200 times. Whatever. 20. What was that? 200%.

SPEAKER_01 42:51

Don't question me.

SPEAKER_03 42:53

So the it's not. Oh, I didn't know that if somebody were to say get caught in a fire, all that would happen is that they would shrink.

SPEAKER_01 43:04

You lose 20,000 times of percentage of your volume. I don't know. It doesn't make sense. Okay, it doesn't make sense. Wow. But it's there, it's it's fast. It's on the internet, so it must be true. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Just accept, I have in capitals. Just accept it and move on, sheeple.

SPEAKER_03 43:29

So if I want to lose some of my mouth, just torture. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

Please do not set yourself on fire. Just let it math. Yeah. I mean, you know, hey, that's what they say at the gym. Just gotta burn that fat off.

SPEAKER_03 43:44

It all makes so much sense.

SPEAKER_01 43:45

It makes so much sense now. Your eyes have been opened. You have seen the truth. Yeah. Okay. Okay, so something that this woman said about this. Um who is this woman? What are you talking about? I don't know. This is the woman that. The the video that it gets weird podcasts uh watched that translated the Russian video. Okay, so it's not so I could hear either of these two videos. Okay. Okay. She said this. The park rangers are lying when they tell you that some stupid asaurus from the stupid Zoic era rubbed its booty on that redwood tree. Okay. I rewound that and had to listen to it like ten times because it's hilarious. I'm like, what playground did you step off of, sweetheart? It was okay. So because oh, also to go along with that, which is something I'll probably cover in another episode, uh, fossils are fake and dinosaurs aren't real. Okay. Okay. So just throwing that out there. All made up government propaganda. Where'd they come from? Shh, they the government buried them for archaeologists to find. Okay. So they could right around 200 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's I'm telling you, conspiracy theorists are cray, cray. Yeah. It's I don't. Um also the Grand Canyon is just a quarry. Okay. Yeah. It's not anything to do with erosion because that's not how erosion works.

SPEAKER_03 45:18

It was was it dug by the giants?

SPEAKER_01 45:20

Yes, the giants quarried rock there. Okay. Yeah. And just put a river in it too? I guess. Like, yeah, I don't. Well, yeah, you know, I don't know. I don't know. Um, so scientists uh will tell you that things are fossilized because they've been compressed in stone or mud and and pressure and chemical changes take place and turn the bones into stone. But that's wrong. Because if you go dig up your pet that you can you'll see that its bones are not stone.

SPEAKER_03 45:58

So yeah, because my died two years ago.

SPEAKER_01 46:03

I look, look, look. I didn't say that, but anyway, yeah. But you that's how you can test this and know that either scientists are lying or they have magic to make fossils. Okay. So okay. Um I have a note here that says I watch too many clips of crazy people trying to make sense. And there's a lot of crappy AI too. So yeah. Uh, you know, therefore you're just stupid.

SPEAKER_03 46:33

See, that's that's one of the scary things about AI, is all the conspiracy theorists will absolutely 100% believe it. Yep. And you can make anything. You can make anything, you can make anything look like anything. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:46

So yep. Also, wildfliers are just global warming propaganda. Just gonna throw that out there. Okay. Let me have the cards. I'm sorry, keep I'll keep fidgeting with them. Sorry. Um, okay, so this other video that I watched that I linked, that I'm gonna link, actually has some really beautiful scenery. So if you can just turn it on and ignore his voice, just mute it and watch the beautiful scenery. Um, you'll enjoy that video. And otherwise just, but you don't have to listen to it. But I'm gonna walk you through a little bit. So Devil's Tower is like the big one that these conspiracy theorists want to talk about.

SPEAKER_04 47:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 47:27

Um, so Devil's Tower, you know, big column uh that comes up out of the middle of a plane, you know. You know what it looks like, right?

SPEAKER_03 47:37

Do you um I do, but for the sake of our listeners who might not be familiar, yeah. So like a big um mesa, right?

SPEAKER_01 47:44

Yeah, it's a big, but it's very tall. And if you look at it, it does look like a tree. A tree. It's got grooves. Yeah, like it's got grooves like bark and stuff. Um, so what Devil Devil's Tower is, is basically Where is it located? I forget. Oh my gosh. Wyoming? That sounds familiar. Yeah, Wyoming. Cool. Um, and in the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind, which I'm gonna we're gonna watch that. It's such a good movie. Anyway, um so this was basically a volcano that at some point in the distant, distant past, the magma solidified, hardened, and then all over the years, all the dirt, the rocks, the softer stuff eroded away, leaving this core.

SPEAKER_02 48:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:32

Um, which is got these really cool hexagonal, hexagonal? Hexagonal? Uh-huh. Hexagonal? Hexagonal. Hexagonal. Hexagonal. Uh so it's got these really cool uh structures in there that is from the from the magma solidifying. Um, and this guy in this video keeps calling it lava. Lava, the lava, lava doesn't move like that. Lava flows in curves. And I'm like, yes. However, magma is different than lava. Anyway. Lava. Like, yeah. Um so he says, once you see it, my friends, it's very hard to unsee. So he uh they compare this to flax, like if you cut a flax um grass plant. I couldn't think of the word for it. A flax plant. You know the flax? Okay.

SPEAKER_03 49:35

I'm seriously like struggling. I've ever seen a flax plant. I haven't either, but just trust me.

SPEAKER_01 49:41

If you cut if you cut the stem, it has little hexagon. I don't know why I can't say that word. Hexagon-shaped stem it in it. Okay. Okay. The components of it are hexagon-shaped. Okay. So they're saying, see, that is a plant, and therefore Devil's Tower was a giant tree. Wow. Because nature.

SPEAKER_03 50:07

You can't have two of the same shape and two different things.

SPEAKER_01 50:10

No, you can't. You can't. Not when one of them is so obviously a giant tree.

SPEAKER_03 50:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:15

So there is some math that actual scientists, real scientists and arborists um use to say if they see a tree, an old tree stump, they can determine by its circumference and everything how tall it used to be. Uh-huh. So using that math on Devil's Tower, you come up around uh two miles tall, which there you then start to wonder how does, you know, because water travels up from the root system up to the top of the tree. That's how it works. So there's a also a really good uh, and I say really good in quotes, a very interesting um Reddit thread that I'll also post the link to that talks about how it could possibly work if the trees were in a humid atmosphere and they actually absorbed more water through their canopies instead of through their roots. So two miles up clouds. Okay. And maybe that's why they couldn't put the fire out. Yeah. Yeah. It's just it's just all crazy. Um also he so in this video, like I said, there are really beautiful scenery. Um, so just play it and enjoy the trip around the world looking at different rock formations. So he says, um, the Mesa Verde cliff homes in Colorado that are like from 1100 BC. Um he says, if you look at this, if you look at these with new eyes. Oh, yeah. So he does like some topographical pictures and he's like, look at this. The mountains look like the branches of a large tree. And then if you zoom out a little bit more, the way the mountains flow around and the rivers flow, it looks like a leaf of a tree. So this whole thing, given this is a direct quote, given from what you see from above, is it not more plausible that this was a giant tree that was laid to rest in its place?

SPEAKER_03 52:22

More plausible than actual reality of mountains. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:27

Okay. Yeah. This guy's crazy. This guy's crazy. So then he's got this scene where he's like, look at this close-up view of a canyon wall. And you're just like, you can see these the striations and the different rock layers of sediments that have been built up over millions of years of erosion. And he's like, you're like kind of got this panning scene of a and he's like, oh my bad. This is just a petrified cedar tree.

SPEAKER_05 52:55

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 52:56

And he zooms out away from it, and it's like in a museum or something. And he's like, Does it can't you see it? Can't you see with your new eyes? And all I could think of every time he says looking with new eyes is that, but I have special eyes. Look, look with your special eyes. The 1-800 contact video uh cart commercial. I don't remember that. Oh my goodness. I'll have to find it for you. Somewhere Sarah is going, Look, look with your special eyes, my brand. Anyway, so that was sorry, that was a little random tangent there. Um so he talks about uh he takes us then to Venezuela, where these huge cliffs kind of rise up out of the forest, and and they have this beautiful valley between them. And he says, we're told that these formations, like there was if this was all flatland, and then the rivers have eroded this away over thousands and thousands of years, and these bigger like mesas stay in place because they're a harder stone than the soft sediment, right?

SPEAKER_03 54:06

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 54:07

So here's the big question. Just curious, he says, just curious, where did all the dirt go? This guy. Wow. Uh, and then he says, wrong. This is these are not uh plateau and valley created by erosion. This is the site of the largest forest that ever existed on the earth. Okay. Yeah. Only 200 years ago. Only two yeah, yeah, just yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's why we still have the stumps. They haven't just like all, you know, deteriorated the way stumps do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:47

But they had time to petrify. But they yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:52

Yep. Yeah, yeah. Turn into rock and stone. Yeah, yeah. It's because of the fire. The fire did that. Science.

SPEAKER_03 55:01

Why didn't the fire make that lose its mass? It did. It lost the whole top. These are just stumps. The top of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:08

But like, this is the 1% of the tree that's left. I know. I yep. It's lost 20,000 times its volume.

SPEAKER_03 55:19

So the fire just took off the tops of everything. Very neatly. Now are we talking about the humans? Like what where do humans fall in all of this? Are there why okay? Uh answer me this. If there are huge giant trees that once covered the earth, where are, first of all, where are all the giants? Second of all, when this fire happened, why aren't there like little like feet and ankles that we can see? We're seeing the stumps of the trees.

SPEAKER_01 55:54

Why are we not seeing the stumps of the people? The giants died in the fire. Possibly they might have left Earth and went into space too, but that's a whole other whole other tangent we could go on. The giants died in the fire, and the remaining humans, we are the offspring descendants of the the few humans that remain to repopulate. Okay. Why are we so small? Because so we because of the fire? So we lived. Ludin Rusi, I could not find him on YouTube. Um It's because the government got to him. The government got to they did. Yeah. Yeah. Or the fact that it was posted 16, uh, 10, 11 years ago. So you know, and YouTube just somebody was he was like, you know what? I sound like an idiot. I'm just gonna delete that. No one's gonna make fun of me anymore. Um I don't know. I don't know. I want to find it, um, and I want to watch it, I think. So poor cake. Lay down. She's like, I can't. There was a there was a noise behind me.

unknown 57:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:15

Lay down on your bed. There you go. So the giants lived here on earth, and we were here as kind of a subspecies, and you know, we just live like either we we might have lived in the canopy of the trees, or we might have lived like in down on the surface. Okay. Avoiding giant footsteps getting stomped around on the trees.

SPEAKER_03 57:41

We couldn't have lived in the canopies because then we would have been wiped out by the fire.

SPEAKER_01 57:47

Or if we set the fire to destroy giants. We started the fire. What about that song though? It's government propaganda, Jessica.

SPEAKER_03 57:57

The fire. No, because the fire was always burning. We know this. It's all just propaganda.

SPEAKER_01 58:06

All of that. All of that. We didn't start the fire. It's possible that well, yeah, it's possible that we started the fire to town.

SPEAKER_03 58:15

And it hasn't always been burning since the world's been turning. It's only 200 years.

SPEAKER_01 58:21

We had to rid ourselves of our giant overlords, and that is how we did it. Wow. So giant trees. So yeah, next time you're out driving around and you see a mountain, really look at it with new eyes, and you'll see that it looks just like a tree that's been, you know, chopped down or any mountain? Yeah. No, I'm telling you. I'm I'm telling you, I'm gonna open this video and go to a random part of it. I mean, muted.

SPEAKER_03 58:50

I mean, we can't play it.

SPEAKER_01 58:51

No, I'm just gonna show you. I want to just show you the video. Um oh my gosh, go away, you stupid thing. Oh, okay, here. I'm not signed in because I did cleaned my all my history today, so now I'm getting ads because I'm not signed into my YouTube account. Um, okay. Okay, so really quick here. See these beautiful mushrooms. I can't find my thing. See tree. Okay. Tree stones with mushrooms. Look at that. Look at that. Wow, so stones. Obviously eroded by water and wind, but but they look just like this, don't don't they look just like it? Oh my goodness. Yeah. This actually is I at the end of this video, um he says, Oh, there's a whole matrix scene. Let me tell you, all the conspiracy videos I watch have some really great matrix scenes in them. Matrix like the movie? Yeah. Okay. Because we're in a simulation. Yeah, yeah. That's another conspiracy theory we can go into. So at the end of this um video, he says, and I'm gonna quote, what if after watching this video, you see your world as even more magical and more mysterious than ever before? And I thought about it and I was like, I do, because you have shown me some really beautiful scenery and places that I haven't seen, and I'm just like, there's wow, this is so pretty. Thank you. So if you watch this video, just mute it because you don't listen, need to listen to any of the bull crab that he's spewing about trees and forest and all this stuff. He does have some really beautiful um scenery in there. And if you like, you know, walking through a forest, there's a lot of good forest scenery of, you know, trees, moss-covered trees laying down and looking just like mountains. Obviously, if you just open your eyes and see with your new eyes. Open your eyes, sheeple. Open your eyes. We're walking on the remains of giant trees. Okay. So, like what happened to all the ash? It's all there. So that's your organic matter that is now in the ocean and in the poles. That's where it's all at. But it's not ashy. Well, because magic. I j don't stop questioning. Just just listen to what I'm telling you. I'm trying to open your eyes to the truth that's around you. Okay. It's so obvious when you see it. You just have to step away from all the scientific propaganda that's trying to blind you.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:53

That's wild that people believe that.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:00

Actually, all the ash floated off the edge of the world and it's in space now. Oh, right, because yeah, we're flat. Flat. Yeah. I forgot to mention that as well. It's all just a flat thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:11

So part of me, the people pleaser part of me, is like, oh, we're gonna lose listeners because aren't all the people like if we have listeners that believe in this.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:22

I'm not even gonna apologize. I'm not gonna apologize.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:26

And just like if you okay, just like 200 years ago, it's not a long time. There would be evidence everywhere. Everywhere. There is no power on earth that could cover up a conspiracy like that. I know. All of that like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:50

Just to prove this is not every government on earth would need to agree with one another. Which is impossible. They can't even know. No, it's impossible. Like they would all have to be like, we are all in 100% to the fact that 200 in 1816 there was a huge fire. Started by us, started by humans, and destroyed the giants, burned their bones completely, because fossils are also fake. But also, you know, we're not gonna go there. Anyway, um, yeah, so everybody would have to agree to that, and not just the governments, like newspaper, journalists, scientists, scientists. Well, no, the scientists don't, they're not in on it. Well, yeah, yeah. Well, actually, these Soviet scientists said that you know the polls were all yeah, yeah. So some of them are um and and then yeah, some of them are are not. Those are the the actual smart scientist people. Um, yeah, so I mean that should be your first clue that there's no possible way this could be a worldwide global cover-up. Yeah. I'm sorry, worldwide disc flat cover up. Not a globe. Not a globe. Yeah. Um yep. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I honestly I just go in, I I feel smarter than a lot of people, but I also feel very much dumber for having watched this thing and all the sur the uh I had to do a uh clean sweep and delete all my history because uh my algorithm. This is how, by the way, this is how conspiracy theory works. They go, question that, question that, question that. So you start looking for stuff, and then the the algorithm, which is keyed to show you what you're looking for, um, then starts shoving you that stuff in. But yeah, but it doesn't do it in a way that says, you know, here are some things to, you know, counterpoint. It goes, you know what? You're so smart. Here, here, look at more of that, and then you see it, and then it starts to just layer up and layer up, and then you some people start to believe it because it's like, well, I looked it up and I found it. I I Google searched it and I found it. But you can also, if you like, I want, you know, you can also train your algorithm to go a different direction. Yeah. Um, and you can train your algorithm to give you both viewpoints or multiple viewpoints. So yeah. Yeah. Conspiracy theories are crazy. Crazy. And the giant tree one, I think. Sorry, I keep smacking my microphone.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:52

Um, the giant tree one, I think, is is really fun. Um, just for the complete absurdity of it. But also I looked at so many trees and mountains this weekend that I actually do kind of believe that some of them might be trees. Oh, okay. Yeah. Giant trees that were cut down with a giant axe. Paul Bunyan? Paul Bunyan. Possibly. Yeah, he was one of the giants. Yeah. Yeah. The uh the It Gets Weird podcast, they do kind of riff on Paul Bunyan a little bit and say it was uh babe, except they didn't name Babe correctly. I can't remember what they called her Betty or something. Uh Babe the Blue Ox. Babe the Blue Ox, yeah. Uh kicked it was this whole Chicago fire vibe that uh she got startled in her in her stall and kicked over a and started the fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:44

So it wasn't us. We didn't commit mass gentlemen.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:47

Well, I mean, the the theory's babe. Well, is it was it? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:54

Maybe we scared babe because we knew it would happen.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:56

We maybe the humans went in and said, All right, see that giant freaking ox that keeps stepping and smashing all our houses. Yeah. Let's uh let's set up a little lantern behind Babe who will scare her. And we'll say kick it over, babe, and babe, babe, babe, babe. We're all gonna have to say it all at once, all 500 humans, because we're very small and babe is very, very, very big.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:25

Not if a a tiny human went and stood like in babe's early. Climbed up with a little fleet. Like megaphone. Babe, babe.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:34

I like this theory. Yeah. So do you have any uh uh do you have any other theories that I I really like this like let's just throw some stuff out there and um call it fact because that is what you could do because we have a podcast and we can say we could do that. You heard it before you heard it?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:50

It's 100% true.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:52

It's it's on the internet, yeah. It is true. Yeah facts.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:56

So um let's see, what theory do I have? Okay, I actually have more questions. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:03

Let me see if I can answer them. I can answer them all with your questions.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:06

We know that we have a giant blue ox. Uh-huh. Where are all the other giant animals?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:11

Or was it 90 20,000 today of volume got just no, they were just erased. In the fire. They all got lined up. They're in the remains are in the poles.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:22

Were there giant dogs and giant cats? You know, did they just not exist? And it's always been like we you said we are a subspecies.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:32

So, you know how we have uh giant breeds of dogs, like the the St. Bernard or the Irish wolfhound, or or those really cool looking Tibetan things, um, Tibetan mastiffs that are so cool. So I think that is just a uh it's people taking these original giant dogs and just breeding them down smaller and smaller to genetic mutation of the government. It's all government uh I'm I'm looping now. I'm like, wait, I know, I know how it was. So there were some giant animals that escaped the fire somehow. Okay. Um, and the government has taken those and and they have them probably in underground bunkers somewhere, which we can get into underground bunkers in.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:21

How much underground sort of real estate is there so much for giants.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:26

Miles and miles, because and we have this entire um earth. We can just drill all the way through it and create bunkers all the way down.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:36

Yeah. Bunkers all the way. Just bunkers.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:44

Uh yeah, it's all bunkers. It's all just bunkers. So many, so many layers and levels and just elevators that just go all the way to the core. Okay. And that's where the giants are. Yeah. The last remaining giants. Oh no, that this is it. Okay, okay. When the fire broke out, a few giants escaped with their favorite pets that they could gather and grab them really quick. Okay. And they went to the core, which is just the bottom of the earth. They have beautiful views of space from there. Um, so and all the water running off the edge. All the water running off the edge. Oh, it's beautiful. So it's glorious, it's just gorgeous. Um, so so they live down there on the on the other side of the earth. Um, and then to make us feel secure that we got rid of the giants, air quotes, um, they started like doing uh scientific experiments on their giant animals and shrinking them down, and then they send those up the elevator to the surface of the earth and release them to propagate.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:55

The cat distribution system is explained.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:58

The cat distribution system has been explained. There you go. We did it here first. Yeah. Somewhere there is an elevator shaft that goes to the core. It's in Antarctica. I'm just gonna tell you right now. No, it's in a cabin in the woods. Okay, no, it's actually literally in our back up. There's we'll get into that in another episode. There, yeah. The yeah, the there's bunker. Yeah. Some people got my reference. And I haven't seen a cabin in the woods. I know. Yeah we need to watch it. Anyway, giant trees. All right. All the mountains are giant trees. Okay. And if you just open your eyes, you'll see it. Sure. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:40

Look at it with your new eyes.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:42

New eyes. I can see it now. And I I you're you're my dearest friend, and I'm gonna I'm gonna open your eyes to the truth so that we uh can be like in this vanguard of humans, you know, moving into the future with with the truth, with the eyes wide open.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:57

And okay. Yep. No, now I'm singing the song.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:04

With eyes wide open.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:07

You gotta do that thing with your like with your mouth to make with the eyes wide open. Anyway, I have to go like read science books and stuff now be to regain my IQ points that I lost. Oh, but that sounds so boring. It is, but maybe I'll find a good science podcast to listen to. I'm gonna go talk to Bill My, the science guy. Okay, okay. Just call him up. Hey Bill. Hey Bill, please I'm gonna you know what? I bet if I could get Bill's number and I could call him and say, Bill, please help me. I feel stupid because I listen to conspiracy theorists all all weekend. He'll be like, I got you, let me talk science. And I'll be like, Thank you, thank you, Bill. Yeah. I think that's what'll happen. Because Bill cares. Yeah. I I do really need to go find something smart to read or or listen to. It's it's a mess. It's a mess in my brain right now. Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:05

So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:07

That's a fun card. It is a fun card.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:11

I have written down in my notes many other things I want to uh discuss. I mean, the the wildfires as global warming propaganda.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:22

Um also the Grand Canyon as a quarry is great. Uh fossils didn't aren't real is great. Um what else did I write down here? Back up here. Um no, I didn't write it down. Oh well. I had some more stuff. It's not in this, it's somewhere else. Um there are so many. The yeah. Conspiracy theories never end and they're great. Yeah. Um please, I'm gonna state this again. We don't believe that giant trees. You have me convinced. Oh, we do. Okay, never mind. No, you believe what you want to believe, sheeple. But I my eyes have been open. My eyes have been open. Okay, so now we're all see how flip-floppy you are. My eyes, I I'm just trying to do it. I'm trying to just tell the people out there. Do the research, question everything, and then question nothing. Yeah. I would love someday to do a QAnon episode, but I don't know if I have the I'm scared of that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:35

That's I don't know. I would I mean, I want to do an anonymous episode too. But that's why Lar Week has done both of that.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:42

Yeah, well, you start with 4chan. Yeah. And it goes from there. Yeah. Wild. Wild. Yeah. It's scary. And scary for sure. It's very, very scary. I mean, like the cult of QAnon is terrifying. Yeah. Anonymous, though, is pretty cool.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:03

I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:04

Some of it. Most of it, yeah. Like the purpose of it.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:06

Pretty solid, yeah. Yeah. Information to the people and all that.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:10

But QAnon, cray, cray.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:13

Please don't come kill me in my sleep. Yeah, but like, where is Anonymous? Where can we get anonymous to hook us up?

SPEAKER_03 1:15:20

Hook us up with what? Wait, hang on. I feel like uh help.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:24

Just help with all the things. I'm gonna just gesture wildly to the to the world around. Just like help. What the world needs now is a na mess.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:43

We just did a stupid little high five across our desks.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:49

Oh, that was our little unplanned sing-along and it went perfectly. Yeah, wow, okay. We all thought the same thing. We were there. Yes. Yeah. Um can we go watch them up at Treasure Island? Oh, yeah, I love that movie. Oh, the big blue thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:10

The big blue wet thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:13

Which is, you know, has way too much carbon dioxide in it from the great fire of 1816.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:20

I mean, I'm sorry, the the bombardment of 1816.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:23

Bombardment of what? From whence? Like a bombardment does not equal fire. Bombardment is like what bombs? Bombs? Bomb. It's in the fire. Bombardment can cause a fire, but like.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:39

Especially if they're incendiary bombs.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:40

Yeah. So So like where'd they come from? Was it the aliens?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:49

I if someone can find this YouTube video, I'm sure he tells us where it came from. I just can't I couldn't find it. And uh the the the I it's weird guys didn't elaborate on that. They did find that there was a bombardment of Algiers in 1816, but that's a tiny little thing. That's a little yeah. But yeah, that that did not destroy 99% of the world.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:18

I want to find out everything that happened in 1816.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:21

I know. I'm like, just give me, I want the calendar of the world in 1816. Yeah. I want all the news. I want to know where this came from.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:32

That uh get 1816 on the horn.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:35

Get 1816 on the horn.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:39

People from the past. Hey, Barbara. Oh my gosh. You know how I'm always saying people from the past write stuff down?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:46

Well, you said that like twice last season, and we haven't actually said it in a long time. Oh, I haven't.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:51

I feel like I know in my head I say it a lot. People from the past should write stuff down, but they did. But the great fire of 1816 destroyed it. The bombardment?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:02

The bombardment of 1816. But then nobody wrote about the bombardment of 1816.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:08

They were too busy just trying to survive, Jess. Okay. And then the cats came up from the core of the earth, and they their job was to destroy records.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:22

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:23

Yep. They were taught to read. And anything that talked about the bombardment, they ate or destroyed or shredded with their little claws. Yeah. Turn it into kitty litter.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:34

That makes sense. That makes complete that that actually makes the most sense.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:39

Of anything I've said today, that makes the most sense.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:43

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:44

Yeah. Anyway. Should we um should we draw cards and hope well I didn't put the conspiracy theory card back in yet?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:55

Yeah, not until after tonight. After we draw.

unknown 1:18:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:00

I'm tired just from that. Like just my brain. My brain hurts. My brain hurts. My brain hurts. Brain hurts. My brain hurts. So you'll notice there are a lot more cards because like more cards. Look at that. I went in on our list and uh made more cards. Cool. So if you'd like us to um talk about your random subject. Yeah, if you have, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:25

Even if it's like it could fall under the category of a recurring card, like a conspiracy theory.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:31

Or like a cryptid or whatever, or what other uh recurring cards?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:36

Urban legend, we have mythology and folklore, we have pirates, we have punk, we have vampires.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:43

Man handled history.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:44

Man handled history, which I found someone and I added added her to the list um this weekend. So yeah, if you have any of those recurring things that you'd like us to be like do this thing specifically.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:57

Or any like fun, fun topic you want us to talk about. Yeah. You can email us at jessandhids at gmail.com. Uh you could follow our Patreon, patreon.com slash jessandhids, or go to our website, jessandhids.com. And yes, it it is still under construction, but it's there. It's there. And the Discord link is also there.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:17

Join our Discord. We have a fun, awesome little community. Yeah. Um, we hang out, we do just fun things in our channels. Um if you're a patron, we do a lot of uh RPGs. We have a lot of fun there.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:33

Yeah. RPGs as in role-playing games. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:37

Like um DD and other uh D6-based games and that sort of thing. A lot of fun. We have a lot of fun. We do. It's a lot of fun. Um and we want to do more. It's a lot of fun. Hey, it's so much fun. So much fun. Okay, draw cards. Okay, cards. Do you want to talk about your war member while we draw cards? Um, I'm gonna draw the card first. Okay. I can't I always do it backwards. I'm sorry. I'm gonna take this one here. Interesting. Apparently I didn't put the conspiracy theory card back in because I just drew it. Okay. You mean you did put it back in? I did, I I did not put it back in.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:23

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:26

That's another thing conspiracy theorists do is to just like use sentences that twist and turn and do really random things and to confuse you. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:37

Cool. I I like my topic. It'll be interesting.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:41

I like mine. I'm excited for mine. It's a topic. It's a topic, yes. It's a topic that I like uh in general. Oh good. Um, so it's fun. Uh I don't know what is wrong. I'm sitting differently or something. I have hit my microphone so many times.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:57

I know I'm very sorry. Really? This bad? I mean, yeah. Okay. Well, you're very animated with your hands, so you always just hit your microphone.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:06

Maybe I should need like a drop down that's not in front of me. Um or not.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:14

I don't know. Yeah. I mean, you you need to have your microphone in front of you.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:19

I mean, you know, it like coming here instead of in places I can hit it. But then you'll get annoyed because you won't like something in my way.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:31

So you'll like move and then I'll be like, talk louder, and you're like, well, the microphone's in my way. I can't see my notes. And I'll be like, well, here we are, folks, again. Here we are, folks.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:41

The dream we all dream of. Okay. Um War member. Warm yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:47

Um I guess but yeah, I said that my war member you stole it. Yes. I preempted it. Look, your Southern's coming out. You've got the Witcher thing going on, and not Witcher with your Witcher. And you got the stole it. Look, I said Colorado, be happy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:14

See, and you didn't sound weird when you said it just now. I've been practicing it all weekend. Colorado. In the video I watched, he said Colorado, but he also said lava. Yeah. So you get in your microphone again. I quit. I'm leaving the podcast. Goodbye. Also, I have to do like Bang's voice, which is deep, like southern and slow.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:38

And yeah, I did want to say that it was very, very quiet when I was editing that episode. Oh, it's really quiet.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:45

Oh, okay. I'll just have to talk a little bit louder. Yeah. It's hard to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:48

I know, because it's supposed to be kind of low and slow. Yeah. But I'll try a little hard. Turned up the volume in there a little bit, but I didn't want to distort it too much.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:56

So okay. I'll I'll try to be a little aware of that. It's cool. I haven't listened to it yet, but I have to, because I have no. You gotta listen to Fizz and Fizz doing that because our patrons voted and they want to know what's up with Fizz. What's up with Fizz?

SPEAKER_03 1:24:09

Fizz and Twig. Fizz and Twig. It's gonna be fun. I'm gonna have to remember how to do her voice. I think it was just higher pitched.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:17

Yeah. It was I don't remember. I gotta do crap. What does Twig sound like? Twig might not talk much. Twig was like way up there. I don't know if I Twig might be really kind of quiet. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that hurt my throat.

unknown 1:24:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:31

Yeah, I need to listen to the episode too because I did not take notes. I don't know what's happening.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:37

We should we should probably take notes, or you're gonna have to like always listen to like I have to listen to the last three episodes again to catch it. Oh boy.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:46

I used to like when I very first when we started playing DD, I used to take notes in the game so I can remember things that happened. I don't do that anymore. I'm not a good DD player. I don't take notes. I don't remember things. So like for this podcast though, I'm gonna have to remember things.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:02

Yes, you are. Because I have my notes of game notes, which I try like I mean, I have like if things shift, like if you do something that kind of uh adjusts the flow of my notes, I have to write it in. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:15

Um I mean, Sam, this is gonna like we have complicated things to ourselves. We really we're only two episodes in.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:24

Yeah, I just put my card back in the box. Okay, I got it. I know this has gotten really complicated. Also, um, our patrons get to help us world build, and uh we're gonna be working in our Discord channel uh building out the map a little bit. We're gonna be dropping some map views in there, also our character sheets as we get to go through and level up.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:49

Um and yeah, so you get kind of behind the scenes of fizz and bang.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:54

And that's our a tale of two kobolds.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:57

If that is something you would be interested in listening to, we would appreciate it. We would love it. Kind of, it's new for us.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:04

And now's the time to get in because you only have two episodes to catch up on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:09

It's just which is like five hours of episodes than these, but I'm having a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:17

I had so much fun with with uh playing Bang uh in my they just drop on the first of the month, so yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:24

We it's only once a month, so you don't even have to listen to it all in one go.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:28

It's a lot of fun. Break it up.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:30

Yeah. Bang has a little tiny lotus flower that he gets to carry around that makes water.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:36

I love it. A little root, a little bit of root, a little tiny bit of root with a tiny little bit of green coming off of it, but that's it. It's not even a a little bud yet.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:46

I'm so happy. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:49

Yeah, okay. Uh War member? I think, yeah, that. Um, it was Shen and Ziren. Nope. Yeah. Zirin and Kierse's gotcha day.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:01

I think I just my war member that I've been thinking about all weekend. Um, and I might have actually used this in our last episode too, is is Shen. Oh yeah. Um because it's getting much better. She, like, if if if you haven't heard, like in the past several months, one of our cats, one of our first kitten, uh, Shen was having seizures, and we've got her on medication, we've had blood tests done, and we've got her on medication, and she was not doing well, and now she's starting to level out. And this past weekend she has had zoomies. She's been uh coming out and hanging out with us, like actually wanting to spend time with us. And she doesn't completely hate me. Yeah. Because I'm I'm the pill giver. Um, but yeah, sh this weekend she's been just super uh herself. Just been herself again. And yeah, I think that's like been one of my that's been kind of my happy for the whole weekend. Yeah. Has just been super. Seeing her and uh just back to her coming out and hanging out with us and sitting on the desk and yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:07

It's just been really nice. Yeah. Yeah. I swear I had I th I had thought of another one today other than the gotcha day. But now I can't remember it. The fact that at this time next week we're gonna be in Mexico. That too, but I did just remember it. It was we pre-ordered X Love's new album.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:32

I was super excited for that.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:33

X Love is another K-pop group that we love. We've we I know we've talked about stray kids before. Yeah. Um but yeah, X Love. They're they're new. Yeah. And they're fun. And pre-ordered it. Like their second album. This is yeah, it's a mini album. Uh I'm super excited for it. Yeah, we pre-ordered it today. It's coming out at the end of the month.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:58

Yeah, yeah. Like we when we it should like ship when we get like the week we're back, it'll ship, but it'll we probably get it until June. Oh, okay. It's the end of the month.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:07

Okay. It won't ship until after the 28th. Because the company orders. The release is the 28th.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:14

Okay. Sorry. I got really confused in my head. Everything is confusing in my head right now because of the trees. Okay. And the giants.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:23

Okay, well, that's straight kids, but yeah. Oh man. Anyway, let's wrap it. We done? Are we good? I think so. I know I'm just gonna have more questions about the giants and the things. I you know were there giant bugs too? See, that's another one. Like is it sure. So, like the giant trees, like that's fine. Whatever, but like all the giant living creatures, animals.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:58

You know, I don't know. Let's just go with Did they even exist, or was it just giant trees? It might just been giant humans, babe the blue walks, and giant trees. Okay. And all the others are just like their little like zoos or their little ant farms where all the little miniatures. Oh, that's what it was. We were just a big farm. Ant farm. Now I've got Alien Ant Farm's version of Michael Jackson's song.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:25

I was just gonna, yeah, I was gonna, I was gonna do the whole alien ant farm reference. Yeah. We should go. Yeah, we should end this. Let's watch him up at Treasure Island. Okay. Okay. All right. Yo ho ho. Boom, shaka laka boom. Boom, shaka laka laka, boom, shaka laka. Okay. Yeah, no, we can't just devolve it.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:49

Anyway, thank you guys for listening. We appreciate you so much. Uh, tell your friends about us, share the podcast, spread the word about Jess and Hids Make a Podcast.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:57

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